Red Rose Cave and Pothole Club - Newsletter Vol 3 No 1 - Spring 1965

THE WEEKEND COURSE ON “THE ORIGIN AND DEVELOPENT OF                                             CAVES IN BRITISH LIMESTONE” HELD AT WEDGEWOOD MEMORIAL  COLLEGE, BARLASTON, STAFFS STAFFS. (30th. OCT.-1st. NOV. 1964).

The course, which was open to all interested persons, was run jointly by the Cave Research Group and the Extramural Department of Keele University. It was designed for those who have a first-hand acquaintance with British caves, and at least some knowledge of the geology of caves and limestone.

The lecture programme was as follows:-

1)      Geology of Limestone Areas ---                               Dr. T.D. Ford.

2)      Caves and Landscape.  ---                                        Dr. G.T. Warwiok.

3)      Type of Caves. ---                                                               "

4)      How to study a Cave.---                                                         "

5)      Methods of Measurement & Survey ---                    Mr. C.L. Railton.

6)      Theory of Cave Formation with
                                     Reference to Yorkshire. ---           Mr.L.B. Cook.

7)      Theory of Cave Formation with
                                     Reference to S.Wales ---               Mr. C.L. Railton.

Considered as the first attempt at anything of this sort, the course was a great success. Over fifty people attended another fifty applied but could not be accepted for lack of places. Unfortunately however, the lectures in general did not give talks which corresponded with the titles & almost nothing was in fact said about the origin &development of caves. This was undoubtedly due to having a too comprehensive syllabus for the time available.

This could be avoided to some extent by aiming the course much lower, for absolute beginners & giving a mere introduction to the subject, or aiming higher & restricting the syllabus considerably. (any one of the above lectures could be made the theme of a weekend course). Despite these deficiencies, the talks were both interesting & stimulating. Dr, Ford’s was perhaps the most successful and he gave very adequate talk on limestone geology, discussing the terminology of limestone's and the processes of diagenesis (what happens to the rock after it has been deposited e.g. dolomitization & silicification) which causes shrinkage and the opening up of pore spaces. Most limestones contain about 1% of hydrocarbons and Dr. Ford suggested that these would probably be the first rock constituents to be attacked in cave initiation - perhaps even by bacteria, as recent work has shown large numbers of those organisms to exist in limestones

Dr. Warwick’s lectures also provided some interesting information. He pointed out that besides the usual mechanisms of limestone removal in caves (i.e. Chemical solution, mechanical corrosion & block fall.) there are two others:- corrosion due to the implosive effect of collapsing air bubbles in rapid streams an also the biological (bacterial) corrosion as mentioned by Dr. Ford. He then briefly described the theories of cave formation postulated by Rhodes & Sinacori, Swinnerton, Gardner, Davies & Bretz and discussed Bretz’s criteria of phreatic origin, illustrating these with slides. He also mentioned the red clays which Bretz assumed to be the result of solution of limestone, and pointed out that red material is rarely left when limestone is dissolved and also in certain American caves gravels had been found under them, suggesting a stream (vadose) origin.

In his description of cave surveying, Lewis Railton suggested abandoning the use of a field note book as described in British Caving and using instead separate sheets of paper with ruled columns as follows:-

St.N

BEAR

DIST.

W

H

L.H.W

R.H.W

L.O.S.

Notes

Station Number

Compass Bearing

Measured Distance

Width

Height

Distance to Left Hand Wall

Distance to Right Hand Wall

Line of Sight Distance

 

Blank sheets should also be use for sketches. This method is no doubt easier & quicker than using a field note book and sketching each length of passage, but using the latter method a great deal more information can be included and the more accurate & complete survey which will result, is, in my opinion, well worth the extra time & effort.

Dr. Cook’s lecture was purely descriptive, but we were treated to an excellent series of slides, mainly of Gaping Gill & Stump Cross - both as he readily admitted atypical, but then that is a typical Yorkshire     cave ? Lewis's  second talk was mainly on the formation of Ogof Ffynnon Ddu & Tunnel Caves and we were given the opportunity to see his original drawing of the O..D. survey - a tremendous piece of work as anyone who has tried cave surveying will know.

The lectures finished at lunchtime on Sunday, but many people stayed behind to discuss the course with the lecturers and others, thus showing that the weekend was enjoyed - appreciated by most who attended. It is to be hoped that with the experience obtained from this experiment the C. R.G. will organise further courses - with potholing as popular as it is at present, the education of the ordinary sporting caver is vitally important to prevent unintentional damage to our caves.

 



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